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kitten_with_claws
05-11-2010, 10:26 PM
Yes, yes, another stupid question I know but suddenly realised I wasn't sure what you are supposed to use, paper or cardstock?
I have lots of 12x12 paper but very little 12x12 cardstock, should I be buying pads in one of each, so I can make cards with the paper & scrap with the cardstock, or.....? *looks confused!*

Millburn
05-11-2010, 10:37 PM
Kitten; what are you needing it for?

If I am scrapbooking, it is back against more card/paper stock, and it's held with-in a plastic cover, laid prome usually on a table; or mid bookshelf; now I wouldn't use 80g papers for scrapbooking; maybe starting at 140g; but I'm pretty sure I'd be backing it with 200g+ stock if I was doing a 12x12 scrapbook; but most decent scrapbook 12x12 is more card than paper

kitten_with_claws
05-11-2010, 10:45 PM
I want to make a scrapbook Millburn - I have some 12x12 papers (in a big pad) that I use for cardmaking but they're too flimsy for scrapbooking & then some sturdier papers I bought individually which I think would be OK for scrapbooking but I'm not sure......? :doh:

fabyon
05-11-2010, 11:03 PM
It really depends if you want to use a one colour cardstock as your base for your layout and add the flimsier papers cut outs on it, if you use a lot of layers even a thin paper will get a bit sturdier if that makes sense but you still need to take great care when slipping the layout back into the plastic pocket. The problem will start when you stand the book then the weight might buckles the cornes of the paper when it's at its thinnest. If you really want a patterned paper 12X12 and it's too flimsy just glue it to a sturdy cardstock 12X12 which will 'hold it' ! :) I hope it helps and that I made sense for once ! LOL

kitten_with_claws
05-11-2010, 11:11 PM
Of course Fab, that makes perfect sense, hurray! I've got some Bazzill heavyweight papers/lightish cardstock & also similar weight MS ones so I coud back the lighter papers onto that, couldn't I? (I wanted to use some of the bolder patterned papers from a big MME pad I've got see?) :clapping:

Ribbons
06-11-2010, 09:02 PM
Kitten, thats exactly the question/problem I had when I wanted to start scrap booking - having used heavy card for card making I found it hard to get my head around using paper for the scrapbook pages, but someone pointed out that the pages are protected and supported by the plastic covers, and as Fab says the addition of heavier card which I use for backing the photos helps keep the pages stable, along with embellishments and layering of papers on the page........and I have always wondered why I seemed to be the only person who didn't get it!

kitten_with_claws
06-11-2010, 09:17 PM
It is tricky though, isn't it Ribbons?
When I first started I bought a few kits & so had a fair bit of heavyweight cardstock but then it dawned on me that I didn't really have any papers to layer on top for cardmaking etc..........so I bought papers, deciding after a while that I preferred using plain card as a base & scrapbook papers as the 12x12 size gave me more options than A4..........now I want to make a scrapbook, I only mainly have papers & very little patterned card, certainly not in 12x12...........! LOL

fabyon
06-11-2010, 09:43 PM
You just reminded me at my first attempts at card making and I guess we all think that the easiest card are the one with the focal point bang in the middle of the card and the sentiment underneath. What I failed to understand at that time was that just having not centred or matted properly makes the card more noticeable as a first attempt. Then I had my epiphany offsetting and overlaying the elements only attempting dead on centred cards after a few years ! LOL I also like very thin paper versus cardstock to avoid having a 'brick' of a card, I call it the 'kanban effect' ! LOL As using only their ultra thick papers generate hefty profits for Royal Mail ! LOL

kitten_with_claws
06-11-2010, 10:04 PM
Yes well, I have to admit some of my cards probably do weigh nearly as much as a Hummer & I am always surprised when they make it through as 'large letter' & not 'standard parcel' rate.....! LOL

It's all about experimenting, isn't it & I definitely do prefer what I use now, which as I say are 12x12 papers & plain cardstock but I do have some rather pretty A4 cardstock in a box, which I shall definitely use at some point, when I have the right 'idea' for it! LOL

I suppose I have only been cardmaking since Easter & I am learning all the time & am just beginning now to discover what I do & don't like using & doing with my cards through trial & error! :nod:

tru-ella
07-11-2010, 12:16 AM
I use both for scrapbooking.

Sometimes I use just paper 12x12 but they often are in layers, but I tend to use good quality paper, k&Co, DCWV and the like.

kitten_with_claws
07-11-2010, 09:11 AM
Ta Tru, I feel slightly relieved now! lol
I did buy quite a few heavyweight papers in the CTM July sale but like buying the pads best as I don't have a huge paper stash & whilst some designs lend themselves best to being scrapbook pages (very bold, shaped or heavily decorated at the sides & corners), I like to keep my options open & know that I can use the majority of it for cards too, which would be more difficult if only buying heavyweight sheets, IYSWIM?